Saint Vox - Out on 25.11.2009. [Updated 28.12.2009.]

[KremlinChaos]

I should have put IMO at the end of what I said . I know there are Japanese artists who release a lot and still have good music but I feel there are some that could benefit from taking a break.

[Nem]

^ I guess. Can't think of any atm though Some on the other hand couldn't make a song that's not boring even if they took years off (ie YUI ).

[Taotrac]

I honestly would rather Jade take a couple year break to think over other marketing possibilities, releasing in different countries, and even sound choices, than to rush and put out an album that won't be released with the right things to back it up.

[Jayme]

That would be bad for business. She needs to keep her name (whichever she's using - Eternity or Jade Valerie) accurate to reach success.

Idk, I've got in this mood lately where I don't care much for chart positions. If an artist I like, likes making music and makes great music then I'll support it. If they don't reach top 10 in every country, that's unfortunate but charts are starting to annoy me, lol.

[Vhazza]

No I'd have to say that I agree with Taotrac. I think they are needing to take a longer gap between things instead of an album under this name one month and then a few months later, another album under another name. The music being produced is not the music that we have come to expect and I have a feeling it's with juggling too many names as well. Eventually something has to give

Huggles
Vhari x

[John]

The music being produced is not the music that we have come to expect and I have a feeling it's with juggling too many names as well. Eventually something has to give

I disagree. Eternity was a little disappointing to me but overall I still like the album. I love Saint Vox's cool experimental collaboration feel as well. Both albums have their weak points but there are certainly some gems on both.

Plus the albums that I consider to be Jade's best (Adagio, Jade, After The Lights) were all recorded between 6 months & a year, so Jade & Geo have proved that they can make great albums within a relatively short time.

[Nem]

Saint Vox was a one time thing...at least for now I am sure there are no future Saint Vox releases planned, Jade and Geo are going to keep working under Eternity8. I personally loved both albums and liked the fact both sounded different even though they were kinda based on a similar idea. However I liked Eternity better and imo, it's a direction they should continue with.

Of course I am sure we'll be seeing more of JV at some point as well and I don't mind that as well as long as the songs are good. The break won't help them get the Japanese and Koreans fans back, but constant releases, as with every album there are chances of a song becoming a hit~

[Dreamquake]

Saint Vox was a one time thing...at least for now I am sure there are no future Saint Vox releases planned, Jade and Geo are going to keep working under Eternity8. I personally loved both albums and liked the fact both sounded different even though they were kinda based on a similar idea. However I liked Eternity better and imo, it's a direction they should continue with.

Of course I am sure we'll be seeing more of JV at some point as well and I don't mind that as well as long as the songs are good. The break won't help them get the Japanese and Koreans fans back, but constant releases, as with every album there are chances of a song becoming a hit~

I loved Eternity and Saint Vox, but overall I preferred Bittersweet Symphony more than anything, after much thought - I've decided that Dance tracks aren't Jade's strong-points, however, Eternity songs like Wonderful World, Love, Worth It All, Only Human are good and Saint Vox's Rocket Girl, It Won't Matter, We Fall and I'm There are amazing. Saint Vox wasn't my favourite.

[Nem]

^Well sooner or later we'll hear more from Jade Valerie However I am hoping that Jade and Geo will slowly manage to shape Eternity's sound the way they did with sweetbox's so that it has a little bit of everything, after all AVEX played a major role in the production of Eternity as they insisted on the original sweetbox sound.

[John]

^I agree! I've missed Jade & Geo using different sounds on their albums. But they haven't entirely forgotten about it, Remember September had the European cabaret sound to it & Crashing Down had a rock edge to it.

[Taotrac]

It's weird, I like the Eternity's songwriting and hooks much better, but I like Saint Vox/JV's sounds and instruments better in a way. But after all, Saint Vox was more of a "Jade Valerie" project, and I think the sounds just reflected what we'll hear all the time from the JV project (JV's always had a little bit of disco, rock, world, stuff like that), and I think Eternity really is the very classical, symphonic project of the two.

I really love both though, and I'm glad that they made two projects, I think Eternity really sounds like a different project entirely and I love that dispite the differences, both projects really explore really light and dark moods. At first, you think the Eternity album is all super light and happy, and it slowly turns to something very dark, then it turns light again. I'm really glad that Jade's music has never lost that 'journey' that alot artists don't know how or bother to create.

P.S. Someone good with wikipedia needs to add some references in the Jade Valerie page, they're probably fixing to take that thing down unless there's proof she's mentioned in some article or interview somewhere! Also a page for the Eternity album probably needs to be made...

[Joshorty]

It's weird, I like the Eternity's songwriting and hooks much better, but I like Saint Vox/JV's sounds and instruments better in a way. But after all, Saint Vox was more of a "Jade Valerie" project, and I think the sounds just reflected what we'll hear all the time from the JV project (JV's always had a little bit of disco, rock, world, stuff like that), and I think Eternity really is the very classical, symphonic project of the two.

I really love both though, and I'm glad that they made two projects, I think Eternity really sounds like a different project entirely and I love that dispite the differences, both projects really explore really light and dark moods. At first, you think the Eternity album is all super light and happy, and it slowly turns to something very dark, then it turns light again. I'm really glad that Jade's music has never lost that 'journey' that alot artists don't know how or bother to create.

And I think "journey-wise", Eternity had it best. I really loved that flow you mentioned and therefore, SO GLAD I waited and went for the Japanese release. Just looking at the Korean version tracklisting, I don't think I would've got that same heart-felt journey feel from that at ALL (with respect to the markets they release that version in). Shows how important order of tracklistings are,, though a lot of people I know just jump to the track they want and just skip the others lol...
Saint Vox is a definite upbeat dancey album and I think that's what they intended it to be. To show case Jade's vocals collabed with Emiri's craaazy violin skills with the take of classical Japanese themes. Outside of that, No More Songs is a beautiful song.

[John]

^^I personally think that Saint Vox has stronger hooks but I agree that Eternity has a stronger flow to it & a more varied production. But overall for me Eternity didn't live up to what I know Jade can do; Saint Vox didn't necessarily either but I'd rather hear Jade try something new & experiment a little (as in Saint Vox) than to play it safe (as in Eternity), though that direction was deliberate. But I like both albums & for me to compare them to my favorite Jade albums is a little difficult since those hold so much sentimental value for me, not to mention years of analysis & appreciation.

[Alucard]

I think they need to keep tryin' without taking long breaks. Whatever project it will be. I think that 2nd ETERNITY album will sell better. After all Saint Vox was able to outsold ETERNITY. I dunno if it was 'cause of Emiri or 'cause of MV. Or maybe 'cause it was Saint Vox.

[Taotrac]

Like, I love Eternity because it was a album where Jade really wrote the songs in a way that sounded like she definatley loved and cared for the people she was singing to, alot of the songs on the album were written like songs like For The Lonely, Life Is Cool, After The Lights....songs that really inspire you to feel better...like on the Eternity page, there was a comment from a girl who had some form of mental disability, and she was telling Jade how the Eternity album helped her through so many feelings concerning her situation...and that's the type of music I've always loved Jade for, she knows exactly how to say things and truly make people feel better...because you know that these songs aren't just sappy get well songs, we know how real Jade's lyrics can be when she's going through trouble, and her get well tunes seem to be things that written as her own cures, songs that help her out just as much as the fans.

And to be honest, I sometimes feel like if Jade would stick to that a little more, that all the troubled people in the world would finally recognize her music and it would really pay off. Her music really is music that naturally helps and reaches out to people with handicaps, disabilities, or troubles, I myself would be nowhere without Jade's music. There's no artist on this earth who has made me feel loved and cared about more than I feel when I listen to her. What's even better, is when she pulls you in with her caring songs, then she'll suddenly pop up with a super-catchy Lady Gaga-esque song and you basically have two kinds of artists in one package. Jade can be absolutely any artist she wants to be, she has no lyrical or sound boundries...and I absolutely love that about her music. Like people who didn't even like video games went crazy over 1,000 Words...that's why I feel like her music is so, so suited for emotional movies and television shows. She's really a soundtrack type artist! *good thing*

Thats the only reason why I wish Saint Vox had a few more ballads....I'm someone who really goes through alot of trouble, and while I love Jade's fun tunes, I also love her ballads and get-well songs so, so much...I really live off of them haha...and I guess I just wanted to feel that a little more somewhere through the album. But System Down and No More Songs were great though, that part near the end of No More Songs where she goes 'I know life is moving...' is just so inspiring!! Kinda like the part near the end of Hello, Goodbye where she goes "Maybe I'm a dreamer..." =P.